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Just When You Think You've Seen It All...

BajaRon

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I'm not trying to make anyone look bad here. I don't want this post to become a referendum on any person. We all let things in life go from time to time. My intention is not ridicule, but to educate.

This customer is a great guy and I respect him. So please, be kind if you choose to post. I'm only trying to encourage everyone to take care of your ride so that it can take care of you.

For example, Tires...
SpyderTires Worn.jpg

Or Brake Calipers... What the Red Arrow is pointing towards is what is left of the Wheel Side Inner Pad. The Outer Pad was completely worn away and the Piston was running directly on the rotor.
Spyder Brake Caliper Worn.jpg

Or Brake Rotors... The original Rotor is the same thickness across the entire face
Spyder Rotor Worn.jpg

Or Brake Pads...
Spyder Brake Pad-1 Worn.jpg

This is an original, brand new EBC rear pad compared to what is left of the Inner pad we removed from the caliper (stood on edge). The Outer pad was completely gone except for the small piece shown above.
Spyder Brake Pad-2 Worn.jpg
 
Hey, he got his money's worth out of those items!!!! 🤣 But yes Ron, you're right, there is a limit to how far you should stretch it out! Man, he must have launched himself over the bars at the first stop sign from the shop!! Wow
 
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How could people not know they’ve worn through the entire pad and the backing plate and started grinding away the disk with the caliper piston? It must have felt terrible under the pedal and made an horrendous noise.

Whether using the OEM or EBC pads wouldn’t matter, ignoring the sounds would result in the same outcome for either.

Grinding through the backing plate takes some doing. I’m surprised the disk itself held up as well as it did.

The thing is, the owner must have been topping off the brake fluid to account for the increased system volume. Wouldn’t you think, where is all my brake fluid going?

I would suspect the system was throwing up ABS codes for a long time.

As for rear tires, you can argue about ballooning rear tires all you want, but when you see the center down to the belts, regardless of why, you need to change them. I suspect even with a car tire such a person would run a car tire down to the belts too.

I suspect the bike wasn’t getting oil changes either, any tech would have spotted this on his check around the bike. Anyone who does their own oil changes is unlikely to have not seen or ignored these issues.

This is why we need state inspections back for states that have dropped them.

Just shocking.
 
How could people not know they’ve worn through the entire pad and the backing plate and started grinding away the disk with the caliper piston? It must have felt terrible under the pedal and made an horrendous noise.

Whether using the OEM or EBC pads wouldn’t matter, ignoring the sounds would result in the same outcome for either.

Grinding through the backing plate takes some doing. I’m surprised the disk itself held up as well as it did.

The thing is, the owner must have been topping off the brake fluid to account for the increased system volume. Wouldn’t you think, where is all my brake fluid going?

I would suspect the system was throwing up ABS codes for a long time.

As for rear tires, you can argue about ballooning rear tires all you want, but when you see the center down to the belts, regardless of why, you need to change them. I suspect even with a car tire such a person would run a car tire down to the belts too.

I suspect the bike wasn’t getting oil changes either, any tech would have spotted this on his check around the bike. Anyone who does their own oil changes is unlikely to have not seen or ignored these issues.

This is why we need state inspections back for states that have dropped them.

Just shocking.
Hey Dad, could you look at my Spyder for me, the brakes started to sound like they are grinding a year ago?
 
That situation was a braking accident ready to happen. A little bit more, piston wears out, fully pushes out enough to leak brake fluid. NO BRAKES!
 
Whew doggy it must have been a sight to see sparklers igniting when braking. Thanks for the reminder to take some time before and after our rides to inspect.
 
This past weekend I copied the data from various spreadsheets I have for the Spyder to the Service History app on my Zumo 590. Amongst the standard items I deleted from the history categories was any reference to chain lubrication, air filter cleaning and tire pressure checking because the last item is a preride check, every time, and I don't use a K&N air filter so I don't clean but replace the air filter IAW the maintenance schedule at 19K. The best service step I've taken was switching to EBC fully sintered brake pads and EBC rotors. Now it's just a couple of taps away and there's no need to check the computer.
 
I'm not trying to make anyone look bad here. I don't want this post to become a referendum on any person. We all let things in life go from time to time. My intention is not ridicule, but to educate.

This customer is a great guy and I respect him. So please, be kind if you choose to post. I'm only trying to encourage everyone to take care of your ride so that it can take care of you.

For example, Tires...
View attachment 255623

Or Brake Calipers... What the Red Arrow is pointing towards is what is left of the Wheel Side Inner Pad. The Outer Pad was completely worn away and the Piston was running directly on the rotor.
View attachment 255627

Or Brake Rotors... The original Rotor is the same thickness across the entire face
View attachment 255629

Or Brake Pads...
View attachment 255633

This is an original, brand new EBC rear pad compared to what is left of the Inner pad we removed from the caliper (stood on edge). The Outer pad was completely gone except for the small piece shown above.
View attachment 255630

All this from the same rider? :eek:
 
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