What did you do to your Spyder today?

[mecsw500]

Hi @dpetrick,

What brand of tire did you install on your Spyder?

I still have the OEM tires on my Spyder. I hope to get a set of new tires, maybe next year.

The wear bars on the OEM tires look OK for now.

My Spyder is still on the battery maintainer, waiting for warmer weather here in Vermont.

Deanna

You might want to look at the new XPS branded Kendas. My new S2S came with them on and they are a pretty decent upgrade from previous OEM fitments. They run quieter, grip a bit better though still have the same nice gradual breakaway, have stiffer sidewalls and the wet grip is an order of magnitude better. The tread blocks are deeper so they might even last longer (BRP says they will).

Just overall a better quality of tire I think. My local service department said as they run out of the older Kendas and Kanines they will start fitting these new XPS branded Kendas to older machines as well.

I've no idea how they are priced compared with the original OEM Kendas but if they are anywhere close to the same amount of money I know which way I would go.

 

[blacklightning]

I think there was a technical bulletin or even some recall parts to swap the cables with stainless steel ones as the previous ones would get rusty from moisture and jam up.

I have asked my dealership about it many times. They claim there is no such thing. I wish there was because that replacement is a job, and it is a very common issue. Most people that I know have had multiple replacements of handles and cables

 

[Deanna777]

You might want to look at the new XPS branded Kendas. My new S2S came with them on and they are a pretty decent upgrade from previous OEM fitments. They run quieter, grip a bit better though still have the same nice gradual breakaway, have stiffer sidewalls and the wet grip is an order of magnitude better. The tread blocks are deeper so they might even last longer (BRP says they will).

Just overall a better quality of tire I think. My local service department said as they run out of the older Kendas and Kanines they will start fitting these new XPS branded Kendas to older machines as well.

I've no idea how they are priced compared with the original OEM Kendas but if they are anywhere close to the same amount of money I know which way I would go.

HI mecsw500,

What sizes does the XPS tires come in?

I currently have 7,925 miles on the OEM tires. ( I have a 2022 F3 LTD SS).

The tread and the wear bars the OEM tires look OK. I stlll have plenty wear on my OEM tires.

Deanna

 

[BryanSD]

I finally got around to replacing the lift shock for the trunk of my 2017 Spyder RTL. No more propping up the trunk lid with my head! Next project is the US Patriot Flag I bought from Lamonster Garage a couple years ago.

 

[spyderladyf3t]

Finally had some decent weather so I went for a ride today, hoping to ride tomorrow again too, then it's supposed to be rain for the next week again...

 

[prokrypt]

Worked on them 3d printed brake reservoir vent caps to prevent water from being sucked in, as discussed @ this thread.


Also did a test and no water went through unless I pointed the holes upward right under the stream. Then I flipped it upside down and filled it with water. Nothing dripped out of the 5 holes. The reason for having 5 holes is that as long as 1 hole remains clear of water, only air can make it in.


If anyone wants to have a go at printing 'em: brake-resevoir-vent-caps.stl ( @propbuildervash you want? )
Be aware that your printer/filament settings need to be very well tuned. Recommended: 0.16mm layers, ironing on, outer walls first. I used PETG filament.
Designed to work with .78" (20mm) 3m acrylic tape, but can also be glued/epoxied straight on the reservoir cap.

Here's my first design, held on by hotglue for a test fit:

 

[mecsw500]

HI mecsw500,

What sizes does the XPS tires come in?

I currently have 7,925 miles on the OEM tires. ( I have a 2022 F3 LTD SS).

The tread and the wear bars the OEM tires look OK. I stlll have plenty wear on my OEM tires.

Deanna

Hi Ma'am,

These tires are still made by Kenda, just rebranded XPS for Can Am to match the XPS oil brand name, and they come in the standard fitment sizes of 165/55R15 front and 225/50R15 rear which should fit your year of Spyder. All new Spyders seem to come with them fitted from 2026 from what I can see at my dealer. If you look on the Can Am website parts finder for 2026 RT's they have a new part numbers for these tires, which I presume is for the new design.

They are apparently available from Can Am dealers and should be a direct replacement for the original Kendas and the Kanines. My dealer told me they would be fitting these to replace the original Kendas as stocks wind down or if somebody specifically asks for them. However, he did recommend that if upgrading a prior year Spyder to these, then initially replace the front pair and the rear tire together as a set as they would work better all being of the same compound. He didn't say you had to, that this was just his personal opinion and advice.

I just measured my front tires for reference and the new XPS tires have quite a bit more tread depth than the originals with now having 8/32nds of an inch, or 6.4mm for those of us raised in the metric system. That looked like a lot deeper tread depth than before with three deep channels around the tire.

These deeper channels are probably why they worked much better in the limited rain testing I've done so far. These new tires felt really secure on badly surfaced wet roads with a decent amount of rainfall. The originals could be a little scary once there was any buildup of water on the same roads.

So, from my limited perspective they seem to handle better, track better, run a lot quieter, have stronger side walls, have deeper tread, work better in the wet by a large margin and are likely to last longer (but yet to be proven).

Like all discussions on oil and tires, put three Spyder owners in a room you are likely to have at least four different opinions. I'm not saying these are better than automotive tires as I don't really have much experience on Spyders with car tires other than a few rides, all I can say is in my opinion they are a huge improvement over the originals and I feel a lot more confident with them.

 

[spyderladyf3t]

I had another nice ride today, rode a little over 3 hours, the weather was perfect, when l started out it was about 62° it warmed up nice, very little wind,it was 81° when l got home, its supposed to rain the next few days,typical spring weather, cleaned all the bugs off my spyder when I got home, she's all ready for my next ride

 

[troop]

My 32 month old Drag Specialties (Yuasa) battery just crapped the bed. Just said heck with it and picked up a Walmart (Everstart) one for $110. We shall see ....

** Just installed the fully charged battery. All the VSS and crazy ass codes are all gone. Another example of no warning being given that the battery was taking a dump , and yes, I do use a BT. Glad it happened in my garage.**

 

[mecsw500]

I have asked my dealership about it many times. They claim there is no such thing. I wish there was because that replacement is a job, and it is a very common issue. Most people that I know have had multiple replacements of handles and cables

There actually is. Its an NTSA campaign bulletin.
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https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2021/CAN-AM/SPYDER%252520RT#manufacturerCommunications

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NHTSA ID Number: 10203706

Manufacturer Communication Number: TST 138444 Rev

Components: EQUIPMENT

Summary

Revision of TST 138444 : Rear saddle bag lever can be hard to pull to open the saddle bag due to water intrusion in the latch cables.

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https://www.nhtsa.gov/?nhtsaId=10203706

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I hope this helps.

 

[Dasmoetorhead]

I've been out riding everyday. The Wx has been good the past few days.

 

[greer]

I saw quite a sight from the seat of my Canyon yesterday. Doug and I have been at St. Augustine Beach this week and are on our way home. Yesterday we rode up through Georgia on Hwy 1 and just happened to catch the Blue Angels practicing for an upcoming show. Riding along completely unsuspecting I nearly fell off the bike at the first pass, came right out of the blue with such a racket and so low it felt like they skimmed the paint off the top of my helmet.

Sarah

 

[Asphalt Animal]

My 32 month old Drag Specialties (Yuasa) battery just crapped the bed. Just said heck with it and picked up a Walmart (Everstart) one for $110. We shall see ....

I just did the same thing. Time will tell.

 

[blacklightning]

There actually is. Its an NTSA campaign bulletin.
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https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2021/CAN-AM/SPYDER%252520RT#manufacturerCommunications

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NHTSA ID Number: 10203706

Manufacturer Communication Number: TST 138444 Rev

Components: EQUIPMENT

Summary

Revision of TST 138444 : Rear saddle bag lever can be hard to pull to open the saddle bag due to water intrusion in the latch cables.

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https://www.nhtsa.gov/?nhtsaId=10203706

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I hope this helps.

So does this mean that a repair could possibly be an item fixed by the dealership with no cost to us? I ask because the left side is feeling iffy, and I am thinking that it is only a matter of time before it goes. My intention is to take the cover off by the seat to clean and lube it, while adjusting it from underneath to see if that helps. But if it can be done by the dealership, I will let them do it.

 

[mecsw500]

So does this mean that a repair could possibly be an item fixed by the dealership with no cost to us? I ask because the left side is feeling iffy, and I am thinking that it is only a matter of time before it goes. My intention is to take the cover off by the seat to clean and lube it, while adjusting it from underneath to see if that helps. But if it can be done by the dealership, I will let them do it.

That's a good question. I suspect the bulletin does not obligate BRP to a free fix outside the warranty period. It's a technical bulletin, not a recall notice. It does mean that the newer parts should be available from BRP though. The dealer should be able to assist at least in ordering the correct updated parts from the documents attached to the bulletin on the NHTSA.gov website.

Now, depending upon the age, the mileage, the number of times they tried applying fixes within the warranty period and failed, BRP might extend to at least replacing the parts as a goodwill gesture. Perhaps your dealer might extend to fitting those parts as a goodwill gesture. I think the former is more likely than the latter.

I would therefore work with your dealer to initially try getting the required replacement parts for free, or at the very least at dealer cost. I would suspect unless you have a long history of purchases and service through your dealer, the chances of them fitting them for free are probably quite slim and I could understand that.

On the other hand, if you have a proper Bowden cable oiling device and can get a thicker oil like Hypoid-90 the whole way along the existing cable, the likelihood of having cables seize up from rust again would be quite unlikely. On the other hand I live in a desert climate so I never had a problem and I suspect the newer bikes probably come with the stainless steel cable as standard now.

 

[RogerC60]

I suspect the newer bikes probably come with the stainless steel cable as standard now.

That is what the document on the NHTSA website says. Post-2021 are fitted with stainless steel cables from the factory.