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Will the Canyon front shocks fit on a 2021 RT?
- Thread starter Don60
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Ok, no one has tried this I guess? So sucked it up and ordered the stage two Elkas!
BajaRon
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I have not researched this at all. But it is very unlikely that Canyon shocks would be a good idea. Especially the Red Rock version.
Even if a shock is correct in body dimensions and eye to eye length. There is so much more to a shock that is not taken into account with these parameters. You're much better off with a set that are designed for your application, like the Elka's you ended up with.
Even if a shock is correct in body dimensions and eye to eye length. There is so much more to a shock that is not taken into account with these parameters. You're much better off with a set that are designed for your application, like the Elka's you ended up with.
CrazyCooter
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You won't regret the money spent! The new found control up front will only show how bad the rear is and take more of your money!
Yes, I’ve been told that by friends who installed Elka’s on the front, next comes the rear! Thanks
troop
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Baby steps Mikey. The current F3 platform is only 11 years oldOne of these days BRP will get it together and start putting a good shock package on ALL of their bikes instead of the chosen few! The air bag, pump, and crappy shock setup has got to be rethought!! But it's great for the aftermarket suppliers!
mecsw500
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It might be me, but the shocks on my 2026 S2S seem a significant improvement to those on my 2021 RT LTD. They seem to have better damping control in both compression and rebound making the ride smoother and the front end roll more gradual and predictable.
Not a huge difference and probably not worth getting instead of decent after-market items for a 2021 bike but I think they must be from a different supplier or something. The whole bike feels more planted, smoother ride wise, and better controlled in hard braking or cornering. Whether they feel like that a few thousand miles from now, who knows, but I did notice a distinct difference riding in on my '21 and riding out on the '26 the same day.
Not a huge difference and probably not worth getting instead of decent after-market items for a 2021 bike but I think they must be from a different supplier or something. The whole bike feels more planted, smoother ride wise, and better controlled in hard braking or cornering. Whether they feel like that a few thousand miles from now, who knows, but I did notice a distinct difference riding in on my '21 and riding out on the '26 the same day.
mecsw500
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You are right, they have the same part number, but they feel physically different. It's not the springs, the spring rate seems identical.
Yes, the seat is definitely an improvement, or so my wife on the back says.
If I apply my weight to the floorboards by stepping up onto and off of one side from the floor the '26 seems to be noticeably better damped. My '21 used to bounce a bit when I did that, the '26 seems to control the weight change better.
Strange, as the vendor is still Sachs, but Can Am now refers to them as Big Bore shocks. Perhaps Sachs changed their internal specifications over the five or six years they've been supplying them, or tightened their tolerances, changed their manufacturing processes, or even just use a different weight of oil?
I looked into it a bit further. Apparently it is not unusual for shocks of this type or price range to vary from production line to production line and factory location to factory location. Sachs is apparently known for making tiny improvements to their products both in manufacturing quality and for production line simplification using different machine generations for assembly.
Another factor I hadn't considered was the significant change in the tires between 2021 and 2026. The new XPS branded Kenda tires appear to have better integrity and stiffness in the sidewalls than the original Kendas fitted in 2021. That would certainly have the effect I observe as the older tires would have contributed more to the initial suspension response.
So I think the change is most likely the tires (both model years set to 20 psi) with perhaps some very minor changes in manufacturing specification or oil type.
It's amazing how such minor changes can have such a big change in the feel of things. Tires have such a big affect upon things even if they are not radical re-designs. I suspect the rubber is a different compound know as they are supposed to last longer, but having experienced torrential rain on my last trip, they certainly have much better wet weather performance than the originals.
Yes, the seat is definitely an improvement, or so my wife on the back says.
If I apply my weight to the floorboards by stepping up onto and off of one side from the floor the '26 seems to be noticeably better damped. My '21 used to bounce a bit when I did that, the '26 seems to control the weight change better.
Strange, as the vendor is still Sachs, but Can Am now refers to them as Big Bore shocks. Perhaps Sachs changed their internal specifications over the five or six years they've been supplying them, or tightened their tolerances, changed their manufacturing processes, or even just use a different weight of oil?
I looked into it a bit further. Apparently it is not unusual for shocks of this type or price range to vary from production line to production line and factory location to factory location. Sachs is apparently known for making tiny improvements to their products both in manufacturing quality and for production line simplification using different machine generations for assembly.
Another factor I hadn't considered was the significant change in the tires between 2021 and 2026. The new XPS branded Kenda tires appear to have better integrity and stiffness in the sidewalls than the original Kendas fitted in 2021. That would certainly have the effect I observe as the older tires would have contributed more to the initial suspension response.
So I think the change is most likely the tires (both model years set to 20 psi) with perhaps some very minor changes in manufacturing specification or oil type.
It's amazing how such minor changes can have such a big change in the feel of things. Tires have such a big affect upon things even if they are not radical re-designs. I suspect the rubber is a different compound know as they are supposed to last longer, but having experienced torrential rain on my last trip, they certainly have much better wet weather performance than the originals.
Mikey
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My shocks on my new S2S suck in my eye's, there's no preload adjustment to them so you can't adjust ride height at all for the load you're carrying; the nose of the bike is way lower than it should be, it taps things that my 2012 RTL would have walked over with no problem at all! Ron and I are going to have a conversation about shocks as soon as I get healed up from my Spring trip out West! 
mecsw500
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I don’t think the shocks themselves necessarily suck, they seem adequate for what they are. But I agree preload adjustment is sorely needed. The ground clearance under the front lip is just too low when two up with luggage. Speed bumps become tricky even.
I think what actually sucks is that for a $34,000 bike, BRP couldn’t even include a set of preload adjustable front shocks at the very least. There are few enough extra specifications between the RT LTD and the Sea to Sky to justify the price hike since they removed the luggage internal bags, preload adjustable front shocks would have been an easy upgrade for a low cost.
Even cheap import motorcycles usually have preload adjustable rear shocks.
I think what actually sucks is that for a $34,000 bike, BRP couldn’t even include a set of preload adjustable front shocks at the very least. There are few enough extra specifications between the RT LTD and the Sea to Sky to justify the price hike since they removed the luggage internal bags, preload adjustable front shocks would have been an easy upgrade for a low cost.
Even cheap import motorcycles usually have preload adjustable rear shocks.
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